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Top Speed?

Post by Fandango » 04/10/13 21:54

Hi all.

Am going to book a trackday at Silverstone for the springtime, as soon as it appears on the calendar, will be the full track layout.

So as I have only so far been to Pembrey, and Oulton Park, I have not had a chance to find the top speed, just about got to 100mph at Pembrey, and a bit more, at Oulton Park.

The car is a series 2 turbo import, bog standard apart from losing a bit of weight, and aircon disabled. Car runs well, and pulls strongly on boost.

What do you reckon the top speed available should be, I have the option of standard gearing, or a bit raised (by using 16 inch rear wheels with 205/55x16 tyres)?

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Re: Top Speed?

Post by MRturboTom » 04/10/13 22:06

205 is too narrow for the rear! And will reduce stock gearing not make it longer
112mph if you've still got it restricted lol
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Re: Top Speed?

Post by Howlin_Mad » 04/10/13 22:08

Fandango wrote:Hi all.

Am going to book a trackday at Silverstone for the springtime, as soon as it appears on the calendar, will be the full track layout.

So as I have only so far been to Pembrey, and Oulton Park, I have not had a chance to find the top speed, just about got to 100mph at Pembrey, and a bit more, at Oulton Park.

The car is a series 2 turbo import, bog standard apart from losing a bit of weight, and aircon disabled. Car runs well, and pulls strongly on boost.

What do you reckon the top speed available should be, I have the option of standard gearing, or a bit raised (by using 16 inch rear wheels with 205/55x16 tyres)?

Cheers :)
160 mph if you find a straight long enough! Have you had your car delimited? It will top out at 112 otherwise.

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Re: Top Speed?

Post by fingers99 » 04/10/13 22:38

I'd keep the gearing stock, the rear tyres wide. Full circuit doesn't mean a lot: note that the grand prix circuit is different from (and longer than) the international circuit.

I'd not have thought that using the GP circuit would be viable for track days: more rent, more marshalls, more ambulances, etc. but I may be wrong.
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Re: Top Speed?

Post by Pav677 » 04/10/13 23:29

I've seen around 140 with rpm in reserve, not on the public highway obviously ;)
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Re: Top Speed?

Post by MR2DI4 » 05/10/13 3:51

Race tracks over here its hard to get past 180Km/hr. The straights are not long enough for a road car and you take much longer to brake as well. Put a race car on the same circuit and you would see 250+ as the acceleration is better and braking is much later.

The MR2 Turbo is good for 250Km/hr but have yet to find a decent stretch of motorway to get it over 220Km/hr.

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Re: Top Speed?

Post by Fandango » 05/10/13 7:57

MRturboTom wrote:205 is too narrow for the rear! And will reduce stock gearing not make it longer
112mph if you've still got it restricted lol
Surely the gearing is raised, ie 225/50x15 = 606mm, 205/55x16 =632mm.

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Re: Top Speed?

Post by Fandango » 05/10/13 8:03

Hmm, never thought about the restriction, not sure how to check it, as the car is not even road legal. Is it easy to derestrict?

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Re: Top Speed?

Post by gavsdavs » 05/10/13 15:34

http://mr2.phpwerx.net/turbocalc/gearratios.php

Use these ratios (or look them up)
1st 3.230
2nd 1.913
3rd 1.258
4th 0.918
5th 0.731

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Using 225/50/15s and 7500rpm ceiling, theoretical maximum of 165mph.

I wonder who's got closest and where :)

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Re: Top Speed?

Post by MRturboTom » 05/10/13 16:30

I've hit the rev limiter in 5th but never saw the speed still having a 180kph/110mph clock
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Re: Top Speed?

Post by topgun » 05/10/13 16:36

Pav677 wrote:I've seen around 140 with rpm in reserve, not on the public highway obviously ;)
I managed 146 on my old Rev 5 NA,In the turd 155 and nearly crapped myself plus there was still left some in reserve all done on a private road cough cough

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Re: Top Speed?

Post by Howlin_Mad » 05/10/13 17:32

My Auto hit 180 on the Dyno - geared for over 200mph in O/D!

Not that it would ever get there on the road the poor thing, couldn't pull the skin off a rice pudding! :laughing

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Re: Top Speed?

Post by Olly » 06/10/13 3:43

What about if your rev limit is 8500rpm?

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Re: Top Speed?

Post by Protok » 06/10/13 8:36

On a stock gearbox? You're looking at 185mph thereabouts but you need the horsepower for it ;)
I think you need something like 650hp just to break the 200mph barrier.

Mine will do 189mph if I had enough power and enough road, wouldn't want to try go around a corner faster than 60ish anyway.
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