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Re: What to do?

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It is a special car as its in red and I adore the shape :) . Not too bothered about the speed aspect as its only an N/A, I'm seriously considering it. Its done 153000 miles so I want to make sure its worth getting done to last me another 20000 miles at least. Also, with the welding and the new sills being sorted. Will that prevent rust issues occurring in the future? :confused1: :confused1:


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A lot of the rust issues, particularly in the sills, have been caused by, in my opinion, poor choices regarding sound deadening from Toyota. The panels behind the seats for example contain foam fillers which hold moisture against metal barely protected. eventually that will cause a problem, no matter which way you look at it. Remove the foam, then you've removed a major contributor to the problem :th:

Bear in mind that there are a few other hidden places these go which might have started to suffer as well, for example, behind the rear wheels is another area where these are vunerable.

Once all this is removed and fresh metal is put into place, there is every chance that that will completely cure the issue and last it another good few years to come :th:
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Re: What to do?

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Agree with the others, worth spending a grand to get the bodywork done - as long as it's done to a decent standard.

Will be worth doing, especially if your planning to keep it longer as the mk2 is shooting up in value now for nice examples.
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It would be taken to a specialist in Bexhill. A member on here works on MR2s. I've had several conversations with him. Happy to pay for him to come to mine in Peacehaven and look at the car close up and examine what may need to be done. :)

It's a dilemm :confused1: a. I have a lovely red mr2 roadster. 89000 miles, no rust etc. Minimal mods, owned a year now. But my mk2 is in the garage and I'd mostly rather pay for that to be worked on and drive it again.

It won't start up however up until last August it had a MOT and has been my daily for 8 years. The red is faded in places and I feel I'd have to spend a couple of hundred on a new service/mot and buy new suspension parts to get it where it belongs...
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At the end of the day, only you know the answer but in my own mind, you already know but are trying to justify it :th:

If the car didn't mean so much to you, you wouldn't even be entertaining the idea of getting it A1. Spanner bits aren't too hard, unbolt one, bolt on another (OK, I over simplify it maybe) but if the bodywork is back to being spot on, you'll find the time and the heart to do it.

I've got both the Mk2 and the Mk3 as well and while the MK3 is a fun little runabout, it's the MK2 that puts the maniac grin on my face. Each car has it's plus points.

If it were me, and this is purely my own opinion, I'd get the work done on the MK2, using the MK3 as it's done and if you need to get shot, then the MK3 is sold on when the MK2 is finished.

From what you have said, while the MK3 is a great car, it's the MK2 that is your baby :th:
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MR2Jay wrote: 03/05/19 11:24 At the end of the day, only you know the answer but in my own mind, you already know but are trying to justify it :th:

If the car didn't mean so much to you, you wouldn't even be entertaining the idea of getting it A1. Spanner bits aren't too hard, unbolt one, bolt on another (OK, I over simplify it maybe) but if the bodywork is back to being spot on, you'll find the time and the heart to do it.

I've got both the Mk2 and the Mk3 as well and while the MK3 is a fun little runabout, it's the MK2 that puts the maniac grin on my face. Each car has it's plus points.

If it were me, and this is purely my own opinion, I'd get the work done on the MK2, using the MK3 as it's done and if you need to get shot, then the MK3 is sold on when the MK2 is finished.

From what you have said, while the MK3 is a great car, it's the MK2 that is your baby :th:
Cheers mate for the advice :th: . Well as you know they are few and far between, and as rust is the main issue getting done/with red paint being faded that's what I'd look at getting done. It would need a new MOT as well. It's Patrick in Bexill who I'm thinking to get to fix it up. Around £1000 plus for the MOT and a service. I just want to make sure that it's worth getting it done so I can use it for the next 5 plus years as my daily driver....

I'd never get rid of it. My father (who passed)used to like it and it's never really let me down. I'd hope to get around £2500 for my mr2 mk3 so wouldn't lose any money.

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MR2Jay wrote: 03/05/19 11:24 At the end of the day, only you know the answer but in my own mind, you already know but are trying to justify it :th:

If the car didn't mean so much to you, you wouldn't even be entertaining the idea of getting it A1. Spanner bits aren't too hard, unbolt one, bolt on another (OK, I over simplify it maybe) but if the bodywork is back to being spot on, you'll find the time and the heart to do it.

I've got both the Mk2 and the Mk3 as well and while the MK3 is a fun little runabout, it's the MK2 that puts the maniac grin on my face. Each car has it's plus points.

If it were me, and this is purely my own opinion, I'd get the work done on the MK2, using the MK3 as it's done and if you need to get shot, then the MK3 is sold on when the MK2 is finished.

From what you have said, while the MK3 is a great car, it's the MK2 that is your baby :th:
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I'm thinking I'm going to pay for a local garage to pick it up in the week and pay for an mot. I just want to see how much it would cost to get it through the mot.

Then if it's not too much, I'd get Patrick to do the work in the summer when I have 6 weeks off.

I think the battery maybe dead so it would need to be towed and then I'll go from there. If it's not too expensive I'd pay for the work to be done. Polish it up and then come summer get the work done by Patrick. Sound good?

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I think you could save the wasted m.o.t money and spend it on a recovery truck from yours to Patricks then at least you are going to get it back with a new m.o.t and all ready to enjoy. whatever happens you are going to have to pay for a new battery so why not buy one and fit that yourself ? at least you can make sure it still runs :)
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Got to agree with Jamie there....

If the sills are gone like you say, then it'll fail the MoT on welding anyway. But Patrick will be sorting that out as part of the package :th:

Get a new battery for her, see if she'll start up. If not, try and work out why and go from there. It's a good, relatively cheap place to start from :th:
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I am 29 miles from you, and Patrick is 50 miles from me, I paid £100 for a recovery truck from mine to Patricks
ok it was mates rates, but for the price of an M.O.T you should be able to get close !
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dinono10 wrote: 01/05/19 21:41 My other option is to save some Money up (I'm a secondary school teacher plus have 2 other jobs so wouldn't take long) and buy a lower mileage mr2 with no rust from a garage. Thoughts please guys?
Best of luck with that. Very few traders will put a car of that age into their stock. It will go to an auction.
The youngest Mk2 (likely a V prefix) is going to be an absolute minimum of 19 years old. Most likely more.
Any UK car is bound to have some rust unless it has been exceptionally well looked after.
Or all the known suspect areas already dealt with.

Yours is a Rev 5 so relatively rare to begin with. Pics don't tell the full story. Visual inspection is essential.
dinono10 wrote: 04/05/19 15:43 I'm thinking I'm going to pay for a local garage to pick it up in the week and pay for an mot. I just want to see how much it would cost to get it through the mot.
Why go through that faff? See below.
dinono10 wrote: 04/05/19 15:43 Then if it's not too much, I'd get Patrick to do the work in the summer when I have 6 weeks off.

I think the battery maybe dead so it would need to be towed and then I'll go from there. If it's not too expensive I'd pay for the work to be done. Polish it up and then come summer get the work done by Patrick. Sound good?
If you are going to have the work done by Patrick, you don't need a tow/recovery truck or a trailer.
Just get it running (jump leads or new battery).

A car which is pre-booked for an MOT test* doesn't need a current Certificate and is exempt from VED.
(See VERA 1994 Schedule 2 Section 22 - https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1994/22/schedule/2)
Speak to Patrick about arranging things with his local one. It's about half a mile from his workshop.
That way you kill all the birds with one stone and save some cash.

* Despite what some people think the legislation does not specify where the testing station must be.
I have driven a (new to me) car with no current Certificate 250 miles from where I collected it to the test.
I wasn't going to risk a fail at some random testing station at the other end of the country.
I wanted it done in my neck of the woods by someone known to me whom I could trust.

If you go this route make sure you have with you the contact details of the testing station and appointment.
Just in case of the (unlikely) chance of getting tugged by the BiB.
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Re: What to do?

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You must have it insured before you can drive it on the road, MOT'd or not. That will be the best part of £200 even under Classic and restricted mileage insurance. :no:
Alternatively you could have a Day Insurance policy from a specialist, 1, to drive it there and then, 2, the return drive when it's had the work done. Cost for the 2 policies would be around £60'ish. That would be less expensive than having the car transported to Patrick's unless of course you have a friend who has a car trailer and can help you out for the cost of fuel.
If you do decide to drive it for the MOT and have repair work carried out, check with the Insurance Company before you take out a policy that their policy will fully cover a journey in a car that has no MOT.
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Thank you for all the advice guys :th: :th: You've all been very helpful and all very knowledgable about the car . The rust is heartbreaking and that's only on the pictures shown here, maybe behind the outside, things it could be even worse so I'm just weighing up the pros and cons.

They really are special cars and whether or not I decide to get work done on it I will never get rid of car. I may ask Patrick to come and tow it to Bexhill and see how much it would be to go through the MOT and get it back on the road again.

At the moment that car is stored in my parent's garage as I am living back at home. But when I move back to my flat it will be kept outside.

It will also be my daily driver so realistically how many more years do you think I will be able to use the car? I'm aware that as it is a 1998 car a lot of the parts maybe getting on it. Regarding the past MOT, t there was no mention of rust and there haven't been on any MOT rust issues mentioned the car. So I guess that's a good thin :)

I'm just trying to be sensible about the whole thing as although I have 3 jobs including being a teacher , I'm quite sensible with my money so don't want it become a Money Pit. If after having the Sills done the rust is not going to be a problem in the future and it is also perfect using everyday for a few years I have no problem getting it all done.

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